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This is pure speculation, but what if JRM had taken completely different strategy at the 2005 Parole hearing.
Instead of letting his spouse do all the talking, what if he had spoken up?
What if he had taken responsibility for the crimes, and expressed remorse?
I know a leopard can't change his spots.
But what if he did?
He could have said that he was young and quick to anger.
And he could have said that Joe was right about the eskatrol. It had side effects.
Of course it would be a day late and a dollar short.
But it might have impressed the Parole board.
They might not have released him then. But maybe at a subsequent hearing in 2010 or 2015, if he continued to show remorse, maybe they would have released him?
It was not to be of course. He did not show remorse, and the board was so unimpressed with him they set his next eligible Parole date as 2020, 15 years away.
What do you think?
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Grandfather wrote:
This is pure speculation, but what if JRM had taken completely different strategy at the 2005 Parole hearing.
Instead of letting his spouse do all the talking, what if he had spoken up?
What if he had taken responsibility for the crimes, and expressed remorse?
I know a leopard can't change his spots.
But what if he did?
He could have said that he was young and quick to anger.
And he could have said that Joe was right about the eskatrol. It had side effects.
Of course it would be a day late and a dollar short.
But it might have impressed the Parole board.
They might not have released him then. But maybe at a subsequent hearing in 2010 or 2015, if he continued to show remorse, maybe they would have released him?
It was not to be of course. He did not show remorse, and the board was so unimpressed with him they set his next eligible Parole date as 2020, 15 years away.
What do you think?
I’m sorry I missed this when you posted.
I don’t believe that Mac’s ego and demons would allow him to do such a thing.
However, if he had, I believe you are right and he may have laid the groundwork for the next Parole Board hearing and they may have been more sympathetic. He may have even found some sympathy for his “compassionate release”. Of course he would have lost whatever supporters he has left, maybe even his wife.
He would be completely tarnished of course. I don’t believe he truly understands what a pariah he is and how little support he truly has. He lives in a world he won’t and can’t give up.
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I am not at liberty to say what I know at this point BUT I can say that we will soon be hearing
about another attempt for this cold bloodied killer to attempt to be exonerated. He needs to
get in the real world. It will not work, and he will not give up. I will share more when I can.
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OneWhoCares wrote:
I am not at liberty to say what I know at this point BUT I can say that we will soon be hearing
about another attempt for this cold bloodied killer to attempt to be exonerated. He needs to
get in the real world. It will not work, and he will not give up. I will share more when I can.
I’m surprised we haven’t heard of another attempt by MacDonald already. Thanks for the update.
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Manson family member, Bruce Davis (79 years old, 1 year older than MacDonald), was denied a parole for the SEVENTH time. One reason given; “Bruce Davis remains in prison because his crimes were so severe and profound that they shook our country to its core with permanent repercussions,”
I believe that MacDonald faces this same daunting barrier. He doesn’t inspire any belief in his innocence and he shows absolutely no grief or remorse. Add to that his long, relentless abuse of the legal system, and if he did suddenly admit guilt, the response would be the same as the California Parole Board with the Manson family; No!
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Yes I agree that he just couldn't bring himself to do it.
Even after all these years, to admit that Joe was right, and Freddy, and Brian Murtagh.
It would be too much for him.
Especially if they asked specific questions, like when Christy was squirming, did she cry out?
What sounds did she make? Did she beg for mercy?
Did she call you Daddy, Daddy?
Why did you turn her over on her back?
Did you put your knee on her legs on the floor, and with your hand pushing the back of her neck,
pushed her face into the mattress as you stabbed her in the heart?
How many times do you remember stabbing her in the front?
How many times did you stabb her in the back?
There is no way he would answer those questions.
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Thanks for the heads up OWC.
Another hearing? Or appeal?
Good Lord!
I can only imagine what that will be.
Another sworn affidavit from a washed up burn-out?
Another supposedly suppressed piece of evidence?
Or maybe another book / film / article from someone who can't be bothered to evaluate the evidence?
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Grandfather wrote:
Yes I agree that he just couldn't bring himself to do it.
Even after all these years, to admit that Joe was right, and Freddy, and Brian Murtagh.
It would be too much for him.
Especially if they asked specific questions, like when Christy was squirming, did she cry out?
What sounds did she make? Did she beg for mercy?
Did she call you Daddy, Daddy?
Why did you turn her over on her back?
Did you put your knee on her legs on the floor, and with your hand pushing the back of her neck,
pushed her face into the mattress as you stabbed her in the heart?
How many times do you remember stabbing her in the front?
How many times did you stabb her in the back?
There is no way he would answer those questions.
Whew! Those are very brutal questions. Turned my stomach and caused me anguish. I had to wait to reply. Do parole boards ask those kinds of questions? Would they ask those questions if he didn’t admit guilt? He will NOT ADMIT GUILT! He can’t, the risk is too great. If he admits guilt and is turned down he has ruined his image and is still in prison. Also, I don’t believe, as you say, he could ever bring himself to prove his accusers, especially Murtaugh and Freddy, were right about him.
I would love to have someone directly ask him those questions. Also; What started the fight? Was Kimberley an accident, and why did you hit her twice? Why do you keep lying about who wet the bed, are you hiding something? In your cowardice were you at first packing a suitcase to run away?
Questions he would/could never answer.
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TP - Your questions are better, and more realistic.
But before a parole board asks those type of questions, the inmate has to admit he did it. As you say JRM will most likely never do that.
If he ever has another parole hearing, it will likely be a repeat of the 2005 hearing.
His wife pleading his case, talking about him being a victim of decades long persecution by the justice system.
He couldn't even bring himself to speak back then.
The strategy of letting his wife talk was probably to avoid the type of questions you listed above.
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Grandfather wrote:
TP - Your questions are better, and more realistic.
But before a parole board asks those type of questions, the inmate has to admit he did it. As you say JRM will most likely never do that.
If he ever has another parole hearing, it will likely be a repeat of the 2005 hearing.
His wife pleading his case, talking about him being a victim of decades long persecution by the justice system.
He couldn't even bring himself to speak back then.
The strategy of letting his wife talk was probably to avoid the type of questions you listed above.
Thanks. I believe you’re right, and he will not speak. Someone probably has convinced him he has done himself more harm than good when he opens his mouth. So, he has adopted the silent martyr image and probably hopes his wife defending him will gain some pity. Fifty-two years after the murders and he is still trying to manipulate people and things.
I would love to have him face tough, honest questions. We know from his interrogation, interviews, and courtroom testimony that he can’t handle it AND he’s not the smartest one in the room.