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3/18/2022 11:20 am  #1


The Family Annilhaitor / True Crime

From the Shrine of Criminology series I thought this was pretty good.  Check it out

 

3/26/2022 8:50 am  #2


 

3/26/2022 12:14 pm  #3


Re: The Family Annilhaitor / True Crime

Thanks for posting.   I believe it gives insight to the convicted murderer mindset

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3/26/2022 6:45 pm  #4


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red1975pacer wrote:

Thanks for posting. I believe it gives insight to the convicted murderer mindset

My pleasure.
 

 

4/19/2022 11:59 pm  #5


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Hi all, I just re-read, Scales of Justice, Fatal Vision and FInal Vision.  I enjoyed reading them all again.  And it makes me wonder, when you read "The Voice of Jeffrey MacDonald"  in the beginning of Fatal Vision, he sounds so normal.  But one episode really struck me.  After Freddie had turned against him and confronted Jeff about having an affair w/ a woman who visited him while he was under house arrest in the military, he blew up.  Told Freddie , he did not have an affair w/ 15 women, but that how he twists the true, it was 1 woman for 15 days.  And even after Freddie told him he had personally spoken to the woman, Jeff strongly denied it.  Also, the  Helena Stockley story, I think Jeff had, in fact, seen her walking on around w/ a floppy hat, that is why he included her in his fabrication.  And I do the Jeff had a very violent temper but 99.5% of the time he was able to control it and was fine.I have always suspected that something happened w/ his temper, which is why he went to Texas. The description in the follow up in Fatal Vision w/ the boat and the little boy AND Michael Franzese both reinforce this.  I think the night of the murders, he had an episode which in conjunction w/ his drug use especially the speed drug he was taking resulted in 10 minutes of insanity.   Finally, it defies belief, that the strongest person in the house, was attacked first or at the same time as Colette and one child  was allowed to live.  That makes no sense at all. Because the intruders would have had to be in the house of what, another 15 minutes at least?  And he was unconscious the whole time from a slight bump on the head?  And don't forget there had to be at least 6 people in the house, 4 in front of Jeff, I with Collette and 1 with the child.  Six people let the strongest person by far live, impossible.

 

4/20/2022 12:55 am  #6


Re: The Family Annilhaitor / True Crime

For me, the most extraordinary part of this tragedy was the fact that all members of the family had different blood groups. 

With forensic investigative techniques in their infancy in those days, the location of the 4 different blood groups & physical evidence, enabled scientists to piece together what happened to the innocent victims and who was responsible.


“Someone in that house wearing his pyjama top, with his blood type, with his footprints, killed those people.  Everything that’s come out since then hasn’t really contradicted the physical evidence of the case.”

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4/25/2022 12:45 pm  #7


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I wonder if JMac is going to combine a parole hearing/ compassion release situation into one when his health condition becomes more severe.   I just don’t believe that he’s ok with dying in a prison scenario. . Even if for 1 day, JMac wants to die a free man

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4/25/2022 7:25 pm  #8


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Hi red, he can't.  That is not legal, 2 different legal issues, they can't be combined.

 

4/25/2022 8:55 pm  #9


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But in a last ditch parole hearing he may combine many different issues to die outside prison.   If course they’ll all be under the “give me parole “ banner.

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4/26/2022 11:43 pm  #10


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Red, he could try, but certainly couldn't not put that in any docs while filling for parole.  And if he tried to bring it up at a parole hearing he would be cut off or dismissed from the hearing.  The parle broad wants first and foremost to hear that you admit you committed the crime.  They would not allow him to testify he is old and deserves to be released due to that.

 

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