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Clip from Wilderness of Error
Came across this interesting clip about 30 minutes long.
Not a fan of Morris, but there are some gems in there.
Actual recordings made by Freddy in 1970-1971.
JRM calling from NC about the article 32 transcript.
You can tell he doesn't want to give it to Freddy.
Freddy and Peter Kearns talking about the evidence.
Amazing stuff.
One thing I noticed - during the press conference with Congressman Lowenstein, JRM doesn't really want to be there. Freddy had organized it with the purpose of reopening the investigation, and JRM knew no good could come from that!
So when he is given a chance to speak, he says something about wanting some of these grievances to be resolved.
A rather weak statement from a man who's entire family was slaughtered.
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Yea Freddy pushes on with the case and , while wearing out a pair of shoes or two, strongarms the case forward. It didn’t matter if Mac was guilty or not, he was going to get “ justice “. Then the powers that be look for the easiest person to pinpoint. Once again, it never should have even been brought to the Grand jury. But nice upload irregardless
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Re: Clip from Wilderness of Error
You have it all wrong Red.
Freddy's journey is one of the most amazing stories ever.
A grieving father and grandfather who stays loyal to his son In law, only to find out later the evidence pointed to him.
His story is inspirational.
You could learn from Freddy, if you really opened your mind Red.
And Freddy let the evidence lead him (once he had access to it). He didn't make assumptions.
Mac fans like you really despise Freddy.
They imagine that if not for Freddy, JRM would have skated free.
Of course that is unknowable.
Freddy was persistent.
But people like Peter Kearns and Brian Murtagh were working on the case unbeknownst to Freddy.
A key moment was JRM's appearance on the Dick Cavette show.
Not only did it ignite a fire in Freddy, but he slandered the Army so bad, that they responded from the highest levels to reinvestigate the case and get it right.
JRM claims it was Freddy's idea to go on Dick Cavette. Some others say it was Bernie. It doesn't really matter whose idea it was. JRM clearly wanted to be there and enjoyed the spotlight.
He only has himself to blame.
He didn't have to slander the army so hard.
And he didn't need to smile with a "cat that ate the canary" look.
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I get what you’re sayin. Basically you and anti Mac people feel that Freddy’s efforts were phenomenal. They were. Kinda like the performance of joe Biden. Mac was his own worst enemy
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Red - I have no idea what you meant comparing Freddy to Joe Biden.
What I meant to say above, is that JRM would probably have been convicted eventually even if Freddy had never existed or never turned against him.
I know we are into speculation and not facts but I just feel the evidence was there and JRM had a habit of running his mouth that kept the case moving.
And there is the simple fact that he did it. In the end there was no escaping for JRM, with or without Freddy.
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Basically America loves to pile on a villain, and that’s what happened here. Let’s see, Sharon Smith who killed her kids by driving into a lake, brother OJ Simpson, Scott Peterson, I can go on and on. Is Mac guilty? I don’t know, I wasn’t there but all these television shows sell advertisements
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red1975pacer wrote:
Basically America loves to pile on a villain, and that’s what happened here. Let’s see, Sharon Smith who killed her kids by driving into a lake, brother OJ Simpson, Scott Peterson, I can go on and on. Is Mac guilty? I don’t know, I wasn’t there but all these television shows sell advertisements
WHO is Sharon Smith?????? Did you mean Susan Smith?
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One Who Cares - yes he meant Susan Smith.
Red - So now you are blaming America for piling on JRM, like they did those other murderers you mentioned?
Nobody piled on. They were all held accountable for their actions. Except OJ.
It is not about selling advertisements. It is about finding the truth.
You seem to think we can't know because we weren't there.
That is ridiculous. If that were true, all the history departments at universities would be closed.
You also say the evidence is compromised. But you won't debate specific evidence. You just dismiss all the evidence with wave of your hand.
If you won't look at evidence, it means you don't really care whether he did it or not.
And that is disrespectful to the victims.
Disrespectful to everything that is good in this world.
I don't know what else to say Red.
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No disrespect to the victims or to the legal system when it works properly. I just don’t like the way this went down. Who knows what the truth is. And I did mean Susan Smith. My mistake