Yep. CM = Convicted Murderer

TexasPoet - He may request parole, but he won't likely admit guilt. I think we discussed his possible stategies for parole before, so I won't go into that here.
I just don't think he has it in him to admit guilt. He has built this fake personna of a man wrongly convicted, he can't chamge now any more than a leopard could change his spots.
But let's do a thought experiment. Assuming he is desperate, and realizes this is his last chance at freedom, and he decides to give it a try.
Can you imagine the board questioning him for details on the crime?  They go into great detail to ascertain if the convict has developed insight into the crime and his level of remorse.
They will ask him what started the argument?  Did he strike Colette first, or Kimmie?  Which one did he kill first?  What he was thinking at the time? When did he make the decision to kill Kristen?  After thumbing through the magazine?
Was killing her simply to eliminate all future responsibilities to give him total freedom?
Or was it part of a subtle manipulation? The police and a jury would not believe that a normal person like him was capable of a mass killing like that. So they would believe the hippy story. If he let her live, the hippy story would not be as convincing.
Did she scream?  Did she recognize who was killing her?  Did she beg him to stop? Did she call out to him by name? Or did she call for her mother?
How do you think JRM would do under that sort of questioning?
 

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Grandfather wrote:

TexasPoet - He may request parole, but he won't likely admit guilt. I think we discussed his possible stategies for parole before, so I won't go into that here.
I just don't think he has it in him to admit guilt. He has built this fake personna of a man wrongly convicted, he can't chamge now any more than a leopard could change his spots.
But let's do a thought experiment. Assuming he is desperate, and realizes this is his last chance at freedom, and he decides to give it a try.
Can you imagine the board questioning him for details on the crime?  They go into great detail to ascertain if the convict has developed insight into the crime and his level of remorse.
They will ask him what started the argument?  Did he strike Colette first, or Kimmie?  Which one did he kill first?  What he was thinking at the time? When did he make the decision to kill Kristen?  After thumbing through the magazine?
Was killing her simply to eliminate all future responsibilities to give him total freedom?
Or was it part of a subtle manipulation? The police and a jury would not believe that a normal person like him was capable of a mass killing like that. So they would believe the hippy story. If he let her live, the hippy story would not be as convincing.
Did she scream?  Did she recognize who was killing her?  Did she beg him to stop? Did she call out to him by name? Or did she call for her mother?
How do you think JRM would do under that sort of questioning?
 

Excellent post, kudos. Susan Atkins of the Manson family never received a parole or compassionate release and I believe she had thirteen (13) parole hearings. And she was in a lot worse shape than convict. Convict could admit his guilt, destroy his “Innocent Man” image, and still not get a parole. It would be a big gamble. I don’t believe Convict could stand up to the sort of questioning you describe (great description!) and would end up losing it in some way. Probably anger and arrogance. I think he is probably locked into his ridiculous “factual innocence” position that he used at his last parole hearing. In his warped mind the “ man wrongly convicted” persona, as you put it, is probably all he has left. He may never let go of it.

Always a pleasure to read your posts. Thanks.

Great news - the Judge followed the letter of the law!  Anyone else notice that inmte's lawyers seemed to try and cherry pick laws to try and get inmate out?

TexasPoet - inmate may apply for parole but I doubt he'd admit his guilt even in an attempt to be released.  Also, even if he did admit guilt at a parole hearing, I seriously doubt the parole board would be impressed and release him since he has spent all these years denying guilt and abusing the courts in attempts to circumvent his just punishment.  Anyway, that is what I think

byn63 wrote:

Great news - the Judge followed the letter of the law!  Anyone else notice that inmte's lawyers seemed to try and cherry pick laws to try and get inmate out?

TexasPoet - inmate may apply for parole but I doubt he'd admit his guilt even in an attempt to be released.  Also, even if he did admit guilt at a parole hearing, I seriously doubt the parole board would be impressed and release him since he has spent all these years denying guilt and abusing the courts in attempts to circumvent his just punishment.  Anyway, that is what I think

I agree with you about Convict’s lawyers and the parole. The attorney’s do seem to cherry-pick and also ignore facts and evidence that is inconvenient or damaging. And Convict has proclaimed;”I’m innocent”, for too long to give it up now, it’s all he has left.  I think, aand believe, that his punishment has been more than prison. It’s been thirty-eight years of hope that one of his multiple(and undeserved) bites of the apple would free him, only to have those hopes shattered!

Be well and take care.