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3/30/2021 10:34 pm  #41


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

That is wonderful news, I wonder if some is making sure the prosecutors know.

 

4/07/2021 4:42 pm  #42


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

Well, I think it is safe to conclude the judge is in no mood to grant compassionate release.  If he believed cm's (convicted murderer) arguments, I think he would have granted release already.  Since he hasn't, I don't think he is buying any of it.  My prediction is he denies, reverences BOP denial, and refusal to take vaccine. 

 

4/08/2021 10:24 am  #43


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

Tim2020 wrote:

Well, I think it is safe to conclude the judge is in no mood to grant compassionate release.  If he believed cm's (convicted murderer) arguments, I think he would have granted release already.  Since he hasn't, I don't think he is buying any of it.  My prediction is he denies, reverences BOP denial, and refusal to take vaccine. 

I hope you’re right. I had the impression the Judge had some sympathy for MacDonald and is looking for a good reason to release him. Personally, I have read everything that I could find and I don’t believe there is ANY reason for him to be released. Bob and the family deserve compassion, not convict! Memories of Colette, the baby, Kimberley and Kristen, and what was done to them, demand he stay where he is.

 

4/13/2021 3:28 am  #44


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

I think in his mind, he justifies what he did, because we know that his wife probably started the argument that got him enraged. In his mind, he is not to blame for reacting. That he hit Kimmy by accident is something he can cope with in the same fashion. When it comes to Kristy, it was calculated just to save his skin. I have 3 kids myself, and i hurt my kids some times by accident, like we all did. I remember how i felt afterwards. Here comes his character in play: remember how he was called in the ER? The Rock. Because he would show no emotion and kept his cool during stressfull situations. And this is exactly how he executed Kristen: precise and quick, perhaps even with a maximum of 3 penetrations with the knife, in order for her not to scream and die fast, almost as if he did it with mercy. What i find disturbing to this day, with all the evidence publicly available, is that there are still people out there who believe that this man is innocent, including Wade Smith.

 

4/13/2021 6:00 pm  #45


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

Advocat - Describing what he did to Kristen as "mercy" is off target.  I think I know what you meant. He did want her to die quickly, but more for his own benefit. To spare him from having to listen to her pleas, or the possibility that her screams would alert the neighbors.
Here is a quote from Christina's Corner:
"Kristen received twelve gaping knife wounds to her upper back, four wounds to the chest, and one wound to the neck. There was a through and through laceration of the skin involving the middle of the right ring finger and the index finger of the right hand revealed a triangular flap of skin missing.  Kristen died of multiple lacerations of the myocardium and laceration of the trachea which resulted in her bleeding to death."

From the wounds, along with the blood stains on the bed and a bruise around Kristens neck, we can determine what happened. 
He lay the sleeping toddler across his lap while sitting on the bed. He started stabbing her in the chest, aiming for her heart. But she woke up and started squirming and blocking the knife with her hand.
So he repositioned her face down on the bed, with her legs down to the floor and her body bent forward in a kneeling position. He had his hand firmly gripping the back of her neck and pressing her face into the bed. At the same time he had her legs pinned to the side of the bed and she was unable to move or block the stabbing. It took 12 stabs through the back before her heart stopped. The wounds were in a tight circle aimed at her heart.
 

Last edited by Grandfather (4/13/2021 6:05 pm)

 

4/13/2021 9:52 pm  #46


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

Tim2020 wrote:

At this point I am sure cm (convicted murderer) has mentally convinced himself that he did not commit the murders.  I enjoyed listing to Richard Dwyer's you tube about the case.  He summed it up well, remember cm saying he woke up hearing, "Jeff, Jeff why are they doing this to me?" AND his daughter screaming?  So that means there was a least 6 people in the house, and no one brought a murder weapon?  All belonged to the McDonald house.

In truth Colette  was crying; Jeff, Jeff, why are you doing this to me? The rest was convict’s imagination. And you’re correct,  there would have had to have been six (6)  intruders in the house, all without weapons. Including the chanting woman, who should have been wet from the rain, with a candle that would have been wet. None of his story makes sense. As I’ve pointed out many times; the only one(s) who benefitted from the silence and darkness was the murderer(s) and MacDonald was the one who never turned on a light or made a sound.

Welcome. Good points.

 

4/14/2021 6:57 pm  #47


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

TexasPoet - Good point about the lights being off.  I remember watching the TV movie in 1985,  and wondering why the police were asking him about the lights. Did he turn them on? And he had no answer.
I didn't realize the significance of it at the time. Years later after studying the case, I realized what it meant.  He supposedly checked on the kids, and then turned the lights off?  Why would anyone do that?
And no yelling for help. Of course the whole story is absurd.  If he really did face down 4 or 6 viscious killers, and suffered only a light abrasion on the forehead from a hairbrush and a clean, neat, 1 cm incision between the ribs, well, he may be the biggest pussy in history.  And the 1 cm incision doesn't sound like it was done by a wild-eyed bushy haired freak show flailing away with a Geneva Forge knife.

 

4/14/2021 10:43 pm  #48


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

Grandfather, your comments are dead on!  I forget who said it during the investigation, but to the effect, He is either lying or he is the biggest pussy in history.

 

4/15/2021 4:15 pm  #49


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

Grandfather wrote:

TexasPoet - Good point about the lights being off. I remember watching the TV movie in 1985, and wondering why the police were asking him about the lights. Did he turn them on? And he had no answer.
I didn't realize the significance of it at the time. Years later after studying the case, I realized what it meant. He supposedly checked on the kids, and then turned the lights off? Why would anyone do that?
And no yelling for help. Of course the whole story is absurd. If he really did face down 4 or 6 viscious killers, and suffered only a light abrasion on the forehead from a hairbrush and a clean, neat, 1 cm incision between the ribs, well, he may be the biggest pussy in history. And the 1 cm incision doesn't sound like it was done by a wild-eyed bushy haired freak show flailing away with a Geneva Forge knife.

I forgot who said it re MacDonald prior to trial but it was "either he's lying or the biggest f**king pussy in the world."

No parent, let alone a doctor/surgeon, would have examined their badly wounded children in the dark but he made the mistake of leaving the lights off when he put Kimmy back in her bed and tucked Kristy in bed. Nor would a trained physician attempt CPR with their child lying on their side. 

 

4/15/2021 4:57 pm  #50


Re: The worst "he's innocent" justification - lack of parole request

Never Forget - I think it was Franz Joseph Grebner who said that great line. A zinger.

Obviously he did not do CPR on them, especially with Kimmy found on her side and tucked in.

Investigators call that "undoing".  It is a psychological reaction of someone who cares about the victim, and wants, in some way, to undo the crime.

That was guilty behavior.  Keeping the lights off was also guilty behavior. An innocent person would have turned on all the lights to figure out what was going on.

But after the killing was done, he tried to return to parent mode, by tucking Kimmy in and leaving the lights off, as if she was sleeping comfortably.

 

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