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- red1975pacer
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Re: Has MacDonald finally given up?
While it’s very likely that Mac was only sorry that he was caught and held accountable, where does the case go from here? Like I said in the past. Mac was a decent, not great, doctor that had a bad ( terrible) night. It’s very possible that a simple aurgument with his family took a tragic and faithful turn for the worst. Even I won’t discount the possibility. Like the group U2. Once sang about when performing a song “ they can take his life but not his pride (. Singing about MLKing). Mac pride is intact
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Re: Has MacDonald finally given up?
Ok Red, now we are getting somewhere.
You seem to be admitting that he did it, so what should happen now.
First of all, your description of the case as being in limbo or undecided is not correct.
It was decided at trial, and upheld on appeal. It is over.
He was sentenced to 3 life sentences to be served consecutively.
In my opinion, he should never spend a day in freedom. Even if he is 95, he should not be released.
His 4 victims (including unborn baby) never saw another day of freedom.
The average life span is about 75 years. He took 4 lives which equals 200+ years.
So even if he lived to be more than 100, he could never serve enough time to equal the damage he did.
And that is not even counting the pain and suffering of his victims, including other family members.
How much time do you think would be enough Red?
For a multiple murderer. A family anihilator.
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Very likely that the entire conflict could have been second degree murder. 30 years would have been sufficient.
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Another thing Red, it is irrelevant that JRM was a decent doctor.
That is no reason to give him a pass for this horrible crime.
Just like it wouldn't matter if he had been a decent plumber, or electrician.
Or a brilliant mathematician like the Unabomber.
I'm not sure why you would bring that up.
Do you think it matters that he was an accomplished student and successfully completed medical training?
Or that he seemed to function well at the Long Beach hospital.
Do think he should receive a lighter sentence because the nuns at St. Marys vouched for him?
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Red - two of them were 2nd degree murder. Colette and Kimberly. The jury decided that was likely an explosion of rage. Unplanned.
But they decided the evidence showed there was a pause, and a decision was made by JRM to take out Kristen. And that showed planning. 1st degree murder.
And the judge used his discretion to impose the maximum sentence, probably based on the defendants attitude. And the brutal nature of the crime.
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A pause? Nobody knows that to be true. And the judge wasn’t that fair. Like I said in a previous post, America loves to kick a villain. This entire trial ( includeding Grand jury testimony) , has too many “ ifs” for comfort, such as you state “ the judge didn’t like the defendants attitude “ . Enough said right there.
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Wrong again Red. There is evidence of a pause.
The upstairs neighbor heard someone crying in the living room.
The magazine had been looked at, with a partial fingerprint in blood. Which means after the attack had occurred in the master bedroom, the attacker paused long enough to flip through the pages of a magazine.
Colette had made her way into Kristen's room after being attacked in the master bedroom.
She was brutally attacked in there as well.
The attack on Colette and Kimberly was frenzied. Wacked many times with a club.
Kristen was a precision attack. Someone stabbed her in the heart. With careful aim.
The jury recognized they were different in nature.
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Red, a judges discretion is there for a reason.
For example, if a defendant shows remorse, they would take that into account when sentencing.
A defendants attitude is important at sentencing time.
You don't need to say enough said.
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This is the first time I’m hearing about the magazine with fresh blood stains. Let me guess, fatal vision? Or was it brought up in trial? Why didn’t the upstairs neighbor call the military police? I mean if we’re going to speculate, then let’s speculate. Once again everyone changes the narrative to fit their perspective
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Yes Red, the finger shaped stain in blood on the Esquire magazine was evidence at the 1979 trial.
"Bloody smudge in the configuration of a finger found on the leading edge of an Esquire magazine was Type A or Type AB."
Colette had type A and Kimberly had type AB.
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